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even if we get rid of al qaeda in afghanistan or pakistan, we won't simply wipe it out in every country this is an organization that will be with us for decades, one way or another. what we have to do is try to minimize the threat as much as possible and there are positive signs that we're moving in that direction. >> okay. evan kohlman, always sobering, thank you for bring to us. >>> and lawmakers very close to an agreement. but a white house senior adviser says no deal yet. more twists in the road ahead, and we'll tell you why. overhe south pific in 1943 vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your t
even if we get rid of al qaeda in afghanistan or pakistan, we won't simply wipe it out in every country this is an organization that will be with us for decades, one way or another. what we have to do is try to minimize the threat as much as possible and there are positive signs that we're moving in that direction. >> okay. evan kohlman, always sobering, thank you for bring to us. >>> and lawmakers very close to an agreement. but a white house senior adviser says no deal yet....
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to do that, it needs pakistan. specifically pakistani intelligence, and right now oar going to see the indians place on the terrorism front to try to get the united states to do that, but the united states has a very delicate relationship right now to maintain with spark tan, and india's likely going to be disappointed with us, and already ununnerved by the idea of the u.s. and pakistan negotiating a deal that could leave the ichbdance vulnerable on a national security front. >> dave, one last question, away from india, what is going on with the assassination of karzai's brother, and do we know who did that? there's speculation of everybody from the cia to drug lords to the taliban. >> absolutely. that speculation is still runs. it's not clear whether his absence will have that big of a stabilizing effect. from the united states point of view karzai's brother caused a lot of problems, he was always playing a double game, but he managed a lot of relationships. he had the charisma to maintain that network. for karzai
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if pakistan takes tougher action, the aid could resume. mean while, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan. panetta is meeting with american military leaders and afghan officials. nbc's atia abawi is in kabul this morning. bring us up to speed on what leon panetta is saying that al qaeda is basically on the run and close to being completely stamped out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. the new secretary of defense's first trip as the defense secretary here in afghanistan, prior to arriving he talked to reporters on the plane about how he feels alg al qaeda is going right now, the war against terror. he says the strategic defeat of al qaeda is within reach, primarily pointing the the death of bin laden, the information they got from the compound including names of different key al qaeda leaders. he says this is the time to actually end the war with al qaeda. let's listen to what he had to say. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden, to put maximum pressure on them because i do believe that, if we continue th
if pakistan takes tougher action, the aid could resume. mean while, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan. panetta is meeting with american military leaders and afghan officials. nbc's atia abawi is in kabul this morning. bring us up to speed on what leon panetta is saying that al qaeda is basically on the run and close to being completely stamped out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. the new secretary of defense's first trip as the defense secretary here in afghanistan,...
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is potentially going to hold back aid to pakistan. explain the ripple effect that will have when it comes to afghanistan and our troops that are still there. >> reporter: thomas, what i can tell you is what i've heard from the men and women, the american men and women on the ground here in afghanistan, the commanders on the ground as well. they'll tell you right now they don't know where that money is going, the money that's aiding the pakistani military to fight the taliban on the other side of the border. they feel that that money is being wasted because they don't think they're doing a good enough job. so i'm sure many of the men and women here on the bases throughout afghanistan will support that decision. i know from officials in washington, they say the pakistani military have done a lot in fighting the taliban, but many will also tell you, and it eelgs something we've seen in the wikileaks, they'll tell you they haven't done enough. they've been using that money not necessarily to fight the battle on this side of the border, bu
is potentially going to hold back aid to pakistan. explain the ripple effect that will have when it comes to afghanistan and our troops that are still there. >> reporter: thomas, what i can tell you is what i've heard from the men and women, the american men and women on the ground here in afghanistan, the commanders on the ground as well. they'll tell you right now they don't know where that money is going, the money that's aiding the pakistani military to fight the taliban on the other...
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pakistan is a major non-nato ally. allies don't allow things to happen like the hosting of the con sealing of bin laden or the arresting of those who help take bin laden down or allegedly the targeting for assassination of a journalist who's been critical of the regime. these are not the acts of allies. we've got to get back to a level of respect and trust i think that's lacking right now. as a result the relationship is in some jeopardy. >> how do you repair it? you've laid out why it's so significant. why it's a relationship that must be repaired. where do you go from here when there have been so many breaches in terms of the u.s. pert pektive on things? >> again, we twheed to send our emissaries conducting talks directly, privately and not wage a rhetorical battle publicly. i think that's going to be quite destructive. there are complaints obviously the pakistanis were embarrassed about the fact that we took -- invaded their territory so to speak to get bin laden. we are upset with the fact that they should have had
pakistan is a major non-nato ally. allies don't allow things to happen like the hosting of the con sealing of bin laden or the arresting of those who help take bin laden down or allegedly the targeting for assassination of a journalist who's been critical of the regime. these are not the acts of allies. we've got to get back to a level of respect and trust i think that's lacking right now. as a result the relationship is in some jeopardy. >> how do you repair it? you've laid out why it's...
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he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his medical conditions he could get into the tribal areas. it helped us on drone strikes. started to get us very close to thinking we could take out senior al qaeda leaders. his information was really good. >> very quickly, you just said nobody had ever seen him, is that how he was able to infiltrate that base? >> when you have a good agent you go to all kind measures to protect his identity. they didn't want anybody to see him. everything was focused on trying to get in man into a cia base before anybody could see him. he had three layers of security without being searched until he was within the presence of a cia officer and then he blew up a 30 pound bomb on his chest. >> a stunning defeat for the cia. >> the book is stunning. good luck with the book. thanks for joining us. >> gone without a trace, the investigation into the disappearance of a 9-
he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his medical conditions he could get into the tribal areas. it helped us on drone strikes. started to get us very close to thinking we could take out senior al qaeda leaders. his information was really good. >> very quickly, you just said nobody had ever seen him, is that how he...
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slapping sanctions on six iranians accusing them to working with al qaeda to funnel money and insurgens to pakistan. >>> a top chander and aides kr wild when a car bomb went off. >>> released from the hospital after a severe asthma attack. >>> and a former pitcher found dead today in los angeles, the victim of an apparent suicide. >>> i'm veronica della cruz, let's get balk to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." what a night it is. the house of representatives is expected to vote on john boehner's deal. the vote is delayed. no word when it will take place and the best guess, no, he doesn't have the votes he needs to pass the bill and send it to the senate. msnbc will, of course, bring you the vote when it happens or bring you the speeches before the vote. in his debt ceiling vote, president obama angered republicans being unwilling to compromise. how has president obama fared in the fight? michael steele is here not exactly as a judge but a commentator. and msnbc contributor, and ron reagan's here. the youthful, forever youthful ron reagan, stressed in youthful attire wearing the threads of youth.
slapping sanctions on six iranians accusing them to working with al qaeda to funnel money and insurgens to pakistan. >>> a top chander and aides kr wild when a car bomb went off. >>> released from the hospital after a severe asthma attack. >>> and a former pitcher found dead today in los angeles, the victim of an apparent suicide. >>> i'm veronica della cruz, let's get balk to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." what a night it...
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the fact that indian officials didn't immediately blame or cast doubt that it was pakistan suggests that they don't think it is. >> and also you just made a point we were talking ak. 200 million muslims in country of india makes india one of the largest -- the largest muslim country in the world? >> exactly. indonesia and india, countries with the largest number of muslims in the world. indians often present that evidence to westerners. >> sure. >> saying we know how to work closely with our multiple populations. we're a large democracy and see how things go so well. it doesn't always go so well in that country. >> move to syria. both in new york and washington we're obsess with the debt talks and defaulting and obviously for important reasons, but there's important developments from the obama administration regarding syria for the first time. i feel like we're close to the line where the obama administration is saying, hasan has to go. secretary clinton almost said it. >> what they're doing both in the case of syria and often in this arab spring is using an analytical word to send messa
the fact that indian officials didn't immediately blame or cast doubt that it was pakistan suggests that they don't think it is. >> and also you just made a point we were talking ak. 200 million muslims in country of india makes india one of the largest -- the largest muslim country in the world? >> exactly. indonesia and india, countries with the largest number of muslims in the world. indians often present that evidence to westerners. >> sure. >> saying we know how to...
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and they feel like this could force pakistan to stepping up to the plate and k being more aggressive in trying to take out those safe havens on the border. >> we shall see. jim miklaszewski traveling with the new secretary of defense, leon panetta. stay safe in your travels, my friend. >> reporter: okay, chuck. >>> she may have been first lady for less than three years, but what a legacy. betty ford is one of the nation's most beloved first ladies. she broke preconceived notions of that role, always speaking her mind, and after politics, she left her most well-known and lasting impact of helping get rid of the stigma associated with addiction. so who better to help us remember the former first lady of the united states than dooris kearns goodwin. nice to see you. >> thank you, chuck. >> she may be more familiar with most americans living today than the former president. >> indeed. during the election campaign in 1976, they had buttons that said "elect betty's husband," showing how powerful she had become, even then. i think the most important thing is that time and again, she withsto
and they feel like this could force pakistan to stepping up to the plate and k being more aggressive in trying to take out those safe havens on the border. >> we shall see. jim miklaszewski traveling with the new secretary of defense, leon panetta. stay safe in your travels, my friend. >> reporter: okay, chuck. >>> she may have been first lady for less than three years, but what a legacy. betty ford is one of the nation's most beloved first ladies. she broke preconceived...
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next thing we know, in pakistan helping with bomb strikes. >> his initial reports are accurate? he's talking, as you say, about damage done by the drones. then he sends a piece of video that shows him in the company of a top al qaeda. somebody we've been looking for for a long time, and then the mother load of information. he claims he's now rendered medical services to ayman al zawahiri. correct? >> how clever he was, weaving in between two worlds, the cia and al qaeda and convincing everyone he's on their side. but ultimately, as we discover later, he's actually on al qaeda's side in this elaborate plot, an incredible lure was set up by al qaeda using their own video equipment and knowledge it was set up by al qaeda, using their own video equipment and their own knowledge of how the cia works to create something so attractive that the cia could not possibly say no to it. >> the reason that the cia found him credible, although through the jordanians, and he knew the medical history of zawahiri, and it matched the information we from his egyptian files. and now the objective bec
next thing we know, in pakistan helping with bomb strikes. >> his initial reports are accurate? he's talking, as you say, about damage done by the drones. then he sends a piece of video that shows him in the company of a top al qaeda. somebody we've been looking for for a long time, and then the mother load of information. he claims he's now rendered medical services to ayman al zawahiri. correct? >> how clever he was, weaving in between two worlds, the cia and al qaeda and...
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million of aid to pakistan. u.s. officials complain that they have had almost no cooperation from pakistan since pakistan's military was embarrassed and angered by the raid that killed osama bin laden right in their front yard. pakistan the furious about a more aggressive cia presence in their country kicking out u.s. intelligence officials who were based there. senator won casey its on the foreign relations committee. it seems to me like things have gone from bad to worse with admiral mullen now saying being the first u.s. official to publicly say that the pakistan military and the government were directly involved in the murder of pakistani journalist. >> andrea it's extraordinary when you have someone at the level that admiral mullen is. someone who's worked very hard developing a strong relationship for him to say that their government sanctioned this murder is an sbroird statement to make. i think it's indicative of how bad things have gotten. i think american tax payers expect accountability for the dollar
million of aid to pakistan. u.s. officials complain that they have had almost no cooperation from pakistan since pakistan's military was embarrassed and angered by the raid that killed osama bin laden right in their front yard. pakistan the furious about a more aggressive cia presence in their country kicking out u.s. intelligence officials who were based there. senator won casey its on the foreign relations committee. it seems to me like things have gone from bad to worse with admiral mullen...
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in iraq and afghanistan beyond when we're not going to have war, you know, we're not going to attack pakistan, they can declare that as a saving too. but here's the problem, and the congressman stated it well. there are aspects of the two plans that are acceptable, and the president has vetoed those, and that is why mitch mcconnell is saying to harry reid, look, you're not going to impose your plan on a senate, 47 members who are republicans, we're going to have to deal. and i think they are going to deal, alex. they're going to send something back over to the house, and i think the house will probably have to pass it on monday or tuesday. >> okay. morris, did you think harry reid has given up too many with this bill, and do you think he's going to have to give up more to get republican support? >> i think there's going to be a lot of compromise. and remember, compromise is not a bad word. in this town, some days compromise seems like a bad word, but that's what you do when you negotiate. when you don't have an absolute majority, you have to give a little to get a little. and for some reason,
in iraq and afghanistan beyond when we're not going to have war, you know, we're not going to attack pakistan, they can declare that as a saving too. but here's the problem, and the congressman stated it well. there are aspects of the two plans that are acceptable, and the president has vetoed those, and that is why mitch mcconnell is saying to harry reid, look, you're not going to impose your plan on a senate, 47 members who are republicans, we're going to have to deal. and i think they are...
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further afield in pakistan there are worries about the loss of badly needed aid and the impact on anti-terrorism initiatives there, and israel is also saying that this threatens the position that the u.s. holds in the world and this could be construed as a sign of real weakness by countries like iran. here in the u.k. there's a feeling that internal u.s. political wranglings are posing a real threat, alex, to the world financial systems. >> yeah. how about the headlines that people are waking up to over there? are they pretty bold? >> well, actually, you know, it's not really making front page news at the moment. you know, it's -- there is a lot of reaction, and it's been reported as political theater. some of the hldz, though, are about savers desserting the stock because of the debt crisis, how the u.s. is playing with fire as the deadline looms, but, as i say, it's not front page news yet. there are some funny asides. one paper called is debt-ageddon and one says apple has much more cash than the u.s. government. at the moment the impolitics for the uchl k. and the rest of the world are not r
further afield in pakistan there are worries about the loss of badly needed aid and the impact on anti-terrorism initiatives there, and israel is also saying that this threatens the position that the u.s. holds in the world and this could be construed as a sign of real weakness by countries like iran. here in the u.k. there's a feeling that internal u.s. political wranglings are posing a real threat, alex, to the world financial systems. >> yeah. how about the headlines that people are...
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this report out of the "new york times" says the aid could resume if pakistan takes tougher action against the taliban as well as al qaeda. meanwhile, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan as i was mentioning. panetta is meeting with american military leaders as well as afghan officials. atia abawi is in kabul, afghanistan. he's making strong remarks when it comes to al qaeda and how he wants to continue stamping them out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. that's absolutely right. on his flight from d.c. to kabul he did speak to reporter on the plane that he was on about al qaeda and said that the strategic defeat of al qaeda was within reach, pointing to the death of osama bin laden, pointing to the information that we were able to retrieve from his compound, including the names of key leaders that they'd like to go after. and he says that this is the time to go after al qaeda. let's listen to what he had to say. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden to put maximum pressure on them. because i do believe that if we continue this effort, that we can really
this report out of the "new york times" says the aid could resume if pakistan takes tougher action against the taliban as well as al qaeda. meanwhile, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan as i was mentioning. panetta is meeting with american military leaders as well as afghan officials. atia abawi is in kabul, afghanistan. he's making strong remarks when it comes to al qaeda and how he wants to continue stamping them out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. that's...
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is there a plan now to shake up our plan with pakistan? >> well, it is interesting, ezra, because for the last five years, it is the troubleshooter who has been traveling to pakistan to smooth over the bum independence the u.s. and pakistani relationship and remarkable to hear admiral mullen accused of killing a journalist. it is probably something that says that the united states is losing its patience with the intransigence of the pakistani intelligence and help on this what amounts to a state-sponsored assassination. >> jay carney said that pakistan is an important partner in the effort to disrupt, and dismantle and defeat al qaeda, and continues to be so. but from what you are saying, the government is more suspect of pakistan or to the question, even maybe needs less of them since osama bin laden was killed in his compound there. i mean, is that part of it? we have more leverage now that part of the mission is complete? >> well, one of the interesting things about the bin laden kill is that it was not just a unilateral kill or just th
is there a plan now to shake up our plan with pakistan? >> well, it is interesting, ezra, because for the last five years, it is the troubleshooter who has been traveling to pakistan to smooth over the bum independence the u.s. and pakistani relationship and remarkable to hear admiral mullen accused of killing a journalist. it is probably something that says that the united states is losing its patience with the intransigence of the pakistani intelligence and help on this what amounts to...
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it's going to draw more attention to the problems that pakistan is facing. and what i'm most concerned about is that this is just going to raise the ire of pakistani nationalists who refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem with terrorism in the region works refuse to acknowledge the role pakistan is playing, and with an attack on india it's easy for these people to play this in a very nationalistic way. >> evan coleman, terrorist expert. thanks for your update on the situation in mumbai. >>> now to our other top story, several big developments in the explosive hacking scandal threatening rupert murdoch's media empire. earlier today, news corp suddenly called off its $12 billion bid to take over british sky broadcasting, the largest satellite broadcaster and hours before parliament was scheduled to vote against that deal. also today, prime minister david cameron said he would look into allegations that 9/11 victims were targeted in the scandal and here at home, new york senator jay rockefeller wants the fbi to look into whether the scandal has crossed t
it's going to draw more attention to the problems that pakistan is facing. and what i'm most concerned about is that this is just going to raise the ire of pakistani nationalists who refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem with terrorism in the region works refuse to acknowledge the role pakistan is playing, and with an attack on india it's easy for these people to play this in a very nationalistic way. >> evan coleman, terrorist expert. thanks for your update on the situation in...
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then right across the world pakistan has got concerns about the loss of aid and the impact that this would have on fighting terror. israel is worried about the position of the u.s. and the world that if the u.s. is weak at this point, then countries leak iran will start to feel emboldened. here in the us u.k. they're saying that internal u.s. political wrangling are pose aing real threat to the world's financial systems, alex. >>> it is a word president obama has been using repeatedly in the battle over raising the debt limit, but are enough lawmakers on capitol hill heeding his advice? we'll have the latest from the white house next on msnbc saturday. >> what's clear now is that any solution to avoid default must be bipartisan. it must have the support of both parties that we're sent here to represent the american people. not just one faction. the time for putting party first is over. the time for compromise on behalf of the american people is now. i am confident that we can solve this problem. i'm confident that we will solve this problem. ÷@x i love that my daughter's part fish.
then right across the world pakistan has got concerns about the loss of aid and the impact that this would have on fighting terror. israel is worried about the position of the u.s. and the world that if the u.s. is weak at this point, then countries leak iran will start to feel emboldened. here in the us u.k. they're saying that internal u.s. political wrangling are pose aing real threat to the world's financial systems, alex. >>> it is a word president obama has been using repeatedly...
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they look across the border into pakistan and see sanctuary there. they see enemy capability there. they see enemy leaders that are there that are not being hit right now. so their question is, why do we need 100,000 american troops inside of afghanistan when we know that a very big part of this problem sits inside of pakistan? >> reporter: a grim reality right there from the ambassador as he leaves afghanistan where he says that he will leave a part of his heart behind. chuck? >> all right. atia in kabul. thanks very much. >> those u.s. drone attacks in afghanistan have killed 45 militants in the last 24 hours. it comes a day after washington announced it would suspend $800 million worth of aid to the country further straining ties between our uneasy ally. joining me now, invited you on because i want to talk about the energy summit you're a part of tomorrow. wali karzai, explain the strategic importance he played for the united states and nato. >> well, it was a controversial figure. a lot of people thought he was corrupt, that he was part of all that was wrong in terms of afghani
they look across the border into pakistan and see sanctuary there. they see enemy capability there. they see enemy leaders that are there that are not being hit right now. so their question is, why do we need 100,000 american troops inside of afghanistan when we know that a very big part of this problem sits inside of pakistan? >> reporter: a grim reality right there from the ambassador as he leaves afghanistan where he says that he will leave a part of his heart behind. chuck? >>...
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and pakistan and already things are teetering on the verge of collapse. >> we've heard that the pakistan head of intelligence is heading to washington. we don't know who he's meeting with, but why do you think he's here? >> right, the head of the isi. we're in a situation where the relationship between the united states and pakistan, as troubled as it, has to be salvaged. the pakistanis need the united stat, if for no other reason, they really need the $2 billion in aid that we send them just this year alone, and the united states desperately needs pakistan. it's an incredible strategic importance. it's the primary military route for aid into afghanistan, so i think what's happening now is that calmer heads are starting to prevail, and i think if these one-on-one talks with the head of the cia and the head of the isi and perhaps with secretary clinton, you're going to see an opportunity to salvage this very important but very tense and troubled relationship. >> indeed. thanks so much for your insight. >>> next, the murdoch hacking scandal moves to the halls of capitol hill. stay with us.
and pakistan and already things are teetering on the verge of collapse. >> we've heard that the pakistan head of intelligence is heading to washington. we don't know who he's meeting with, but why do you think he's here? >> right, the head of the isi. we're in a situation where the relationship between the united states and pakistan, as troubled as it, has to be salvaged. the pakistanis need the united stat, if for no other reason, they really need the $2 billion in aid that we send...
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most recent meeting two weeks ago where ambassador grossman who's now the envoy for afghanistan and pakistan told us this is a very fragile, difficult time. we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses really willing to invest in afghanistan? >> they are. one of the most recent projects is with kate spade. kate spade has gone into afghanistan in the last year. they surveyed what tn opportunities are there for marketable products and going te marketableable products, and afghanistan has the third largest producer of cashmere, and they want a product made by afghan women and sold in kate spade stores here and online and they are willing to invest a lot of money i might add, but they have the support of the u.s. government and the u.s. military to give them access. >> anita mcbride, what a pleasure to see you ag
most recent meeting two weeks ago where ambassador grossman who's now the envoy for afghanistan and pakistan told us this is a very fragile, difficult time. we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses...
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>> the kind of thing like in pakistan. go after people, use drones. you have to deal with the places we can't occupy. they might have be be september in to operate from time to time. >>> this mornings must read opinion pages and infrastruct e infrastructure. we'll be right back. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ >>> welcome back to "morning joe." time for the must read opinion pages. we start with "the new york times" negotiating on a knife's edge. mr. obama, this is the paper's editorial and it says this. mr. obama might want to consider the advice of several constitutional scholars who say congress may not be able to put the govern in -- such a declaration would lead to litigation or attempts to impeachment. if republicans reach a deal or if democrats will not support it because it leans too heavily on the less fortunate, the constitutional option may look better than the recession option. people are worried about where the country is going. >> j-o-b-s. i
>> the kind of thing like in pakistan. go after people, use drones. you have to deal with the places we can't occupy. they might have be be september in to operate from time to time. >>> this mornings must read opinion pages and infrastruct e infrastructure. we'll be right back. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ >>> welcome back to "morning joe." time for the must...
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it's iran, afghanistan and pakistan. how this plays out and what india finds its role in combatting terrorism in its country is very real at this point. >> meanwhile in afghanistan we had the appalling assassination of a controversial figure karzai's half brother, step brother. someone who has been criticized for being corrupt in the past, but most recently has been a key player as the u.s. tries to stabilize its forces in the south. >> absolutely. what that means in terms of not just southern afghanistan quite honestly for the whole country has real consequences for this reason, too. if you think about over the past two years we've had the governor assassinated. the police chief of all of northern afghanistan assassinated. the police chief of canada harr assassinate t and now wali karzai. what this as to other leaders inside of afghanistan people aspiring to leadership in afghanistan this has to be weighing heavily on their minds. >> don't cooperate with the u.s. and nato. i want to take a moment to talk about an extrao
it's iran, afghanistan and pakistan. how this plays out and what india finds its role in combatting terrorism in its country is very real at this point. >> meanwhile in afghanistan we had the appalling assassination of a controversial figure karzai's half brother, step brother. someone who has been criticized for being corrupt in the past, but most recently has been a key player as the u.s. tries to stabilize its forces in the south. >> absolutely. what that means in terms of not...
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one in afghanistan and the one in pakistan. there's a conflict in pakistan. there isn't a foreign intervention trying to resolve it. it is a great internal conflict. what we are seeing in pakistan is a series of contradictory policies, contradictory engagements and contradictory engagements. the army wants to preserve a stable pakistan that is assured of security and sees the united states as a component of the success in that quest. the military is defective. intelligence service seems to be torn and of course in the country at large, strong fundment list tendencies. it's not a single entity. it's fragmented. we have no choice until we are out of afghanistan to cooperate as much as we can with those pakistanis who see their interest in our success. >> back to the topic of the increasing class and income, we know it's there. you mentioned it's wider now than in country's like china. what do we think about ourselves given the fact people are lining up at the door to live in the united states of america. a lot of people want to live in china. >> there are two g
one in afghanistan and the one in pakistan. there's a conflict in pakistan. there isn't a foreign intervention trying to resolve it. it is a great internal conflict. what we are seeing in pakistan is a series of contradictory policies, contradictory engagements and contradictory engagements. the army wants to preserve a stable pakistan that is assured of security and sees the united states as a component of the success in that quest. the military is defective. intelligence service seems to be...
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and more trouble with pakistan. we'll talk to the intelligence chair. still ahead, uk hacking scandal claims another top official at scotland yard. send me your thoughts on twitter. this is "andrea mitchell this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> you're watching live pictures of the rose garden. the president's about to come
and more trouble with pakistan. we'll talk to the intelligence chair. still ahead, uk hacking scandal claims another top official at scotland yard. send me your thoughts on twitter. this is "andrea mitchell this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving...
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pakistan is trying to rebuild those assets. infrastructure has been washed away, irrigation channels have been washed away. a lot of repairs have taken place, but there is also the possibility that those efforts could be jeopardized. >>> over now to more on the state of the u.s. economy. >> as lawmakers argue on capitol hill, many americans are struggling under the burden of high unemployment and an uncertain financial future, a story reminiscent of that told by john steinbeck in his pulitzer prize-winning novel "the grapes of wrath." what can the journey of the family tells about modern day society? >> with unemployment rising, the great american job search goes on. albuquerque, still suffering from the bust of the house price boom, posted increased unemployment in june, in part because of a pickup in public sector jobs. for those who did not succeed, there is a growing problem, where to live. this is a shelter for the homeless. jeremy reynolds runs it. has it got worse? >> absolutely, absolutely. i anticipate getting worse. >
pakistan is trying to rebuild those assets. infrastructure has been washed away, irrigation channels have been washed away. a lot of repairs have taken place, but there is also the possibility that those efforts could be jeopardized. >>> over now to more on the state of the u.s. economy. >> as lawmakers argue on capitol hill, many americans are struggling under the burden of high unemployment and an uncertain financial future, a story reminiscent of that told by john steinbeck in...
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in other news, in pakistan -- a libyan leader has been shot dead by a gang. security forces are trying to put down protests in syria in the capital of damascus. a u.s. soldier has been arrested near the fort hood military base in texas after being found with bomb making materials. officials say the arrested serviceman, jason abdo nasser was planning an attack on military personnel. and now on the state of the u.s. economy. >> lawmakers failed to reach agreement on capitol hill and many americans are struggling under the burden of high unemployment and an uncertain financial future. it is a story reminiscent of that told by john steinbeck in his pulitzer prize-winning novel "the grapes of wrath," which was published 80 years ago. >> with unemployment rising, the great american job search goes on. albuquerque is still suffering from the bus that followed the house price boom. it posted a fall in unemployment in june due in part to a public sector job pick up. but those that do not succeed, there's the problem of where to live. george mÜnchen is a shelter for t
in other news, in pakistan -- a libyan leader has been shot dead by a gang. security forces are trying to put down protests in syria in the capital of damascus. a u.s. soldier has been arrested near the fort hood military base in texas after being found with bomb making materials. officials say the arrested serviceman, jason abdo nasser was planning an attack on military personnel. and now on the state of the u.s. economy. >> lawmakers failed to reach agreement on capitol hill and many...
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not just in the northwest of pakistan. not just in afghanistan, but as a conduit for weapons equipment, money, and recruits to al qaeda operations and the taliban operations every where. very bad place, and no matter what the pakistani government says, it's not helping like it should to get rid of these guys. >> all right. >> by the way, we're as i understanding them billions of dollars. >> just to make that point and everyone go, oh. thank you very much, jack jacobs. >> you're welcome. >>> now to weekend weather. the northeast is drying out this morning after torrential ransz. in connecticut the cromwell had firefighters responded to flooding at the station. firefighters had the playing sand bagged try to keep the water from seeping in. nbc meteorologist bill karins, good morning to you, bill. >> good morning, alex. we got rid of all the bad stuff on friday. that was the good thing. we have watched a nice clearing trend in new england. a beautiful morning in the mid-atlantic. now it's starting to heat up. the sun is beati
not just in the northwest of pakistan. not just in afghanistan, but as a conduit for weapons equipment, money, and recruits to al qaeda operations and the taliban operations every where. very bad place, and no matter what the pakistani government says, it's not helping like it should to get rid of these guys. >> all right. >> by the way, we're as i understanding them billions of dollars. >> just to make that point and everyone go, oh. thank you very much, jack jacobs. >>...
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the fbi has arrested a man accused of being an agent for pakistan state intelligence service who alledgedly funneled $2 million in contributions to u.s. political candidates and organizations without disclosing his connections to the pakistani government. the fbi says the man's goal was to tilt u.s. policy against indiana control in kashmir. >>> the justice department says 14 people have been arrested in nine states and district of columbia for allegedly mounting a cyber attack on the pay pal website. the group anonymous claimed responsibility calling it retaliation for the site's suspension of wikileaks accounts. >>> a mother and her three young daughters died when their vehicle drove into a washed out section of a wyoming highway and was swept away by a raging creek. only the father managed to escape. >>> in california, witnesses say a hiker was swept over a water fall at yoe accept itity national park. a search and rescue operation will resume in the morning. >>> this morning in shanghai, yao ming announced his retirement due to injuries. david stern called the chinese star, quote, a tes
the fbi has arrested a man accused of being an agent for pakistan state intelligence service who alledgedly funneled $2 million in contributions to u.s. political candidates and organizations without disclosing his connections to the pakistani government. the fbi says the man's goal was to tilt u.s. policy against indiana control in kashmir. >>> the justice department says 14 people have been arrested in nine states and district of columbia for allegedly mounting a cyber attack on the...
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s worsening relationship with pakistan since the killing of osama bin laden. the white house is looking in to how the u.s. will present the intelligence to pakistan's leadership. we'll be following that. willie? >>> moving on to some 2012 news, several 2012 candidates taking part in celebrations in primary and caucus states in new hampshire and iowa all in an effort to shore up critical early support in new hampshire. mitt romney continued to hammer president obama in the economy. he said the president, quote, failed us, because the recession is deeper because of our president. but when asked if he agreed with the assessment, former governor john huntsman skirted the issue focusing on what he and his fellow candidates can offer voters. >> some are you are republicans, independents, unaffiliated. i understand that. all i can say is take a look at where we've been, done, and stand for, where we hope to take the country, make an informed decision, then come back and talk to us. a. >> rivals bachmann toured new england. gingrich said he's committed to spending 16
s worsening relationship with pakistan since the killing of osama bin laden. the white house is looking in to how the u.s. will present the intelligence to pakistan's leadership. we'll be following that. willie? >>> moving on to some 2012 news, several 2012 candidates taking part in celebrations in primary and caucus states in new hampshire and iowa all in an effort to shore up critical early support in new hampshire. mitt romney continued to hammer president obama in the economy. he...
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now it looks like we have lost pakistan. have we lost pakistan? if so, why and was it inevitable. >> i think we are losing pakistan. i don't know if we have lost it yet. if we disengage intelligently and engage in the umbrella i have been talking about, her happens we will lose it all together. i think the fault is two way. first of all, we have never been really consistently and comprehensively sensitive to the political interests in having a secure backyard in afghanistan. we just haven't. resently, we played with indi s indians. we give a super nuclear deal to the indians. we did not give it to the pakistanis. there's resentment there. pakistan is coming undone on its own. it's not all our undoing. there's a conflict between the army and society at large. divisions between the army and the military and intelligence. ethnic differences. regional differences in pakistan. plus, this overwhelming obsession with india. so, pakistan is in trouble largely, not entirely, but largely because of its own position. >> dr. brzezinski, good morning, it's wil
now it looks like we have lost pakistan. have we lost pakistan? if so, why and was it inevitable. >> i think we are losing pakistan. i don't know if we have lost it yet. if we disengage intelligently and engage in the umbrella i have been talking about, her happens we will lose it all together. i think the fault is two way. first of all, we have never been really consistently and comprehensively sensitive to the political interests in having a secure backyard in afghanistan. we just...
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pakistan? where would you focus your attention? >> pakistan's an important challenge. there's not much we can do about it. we've tried all sorts of things there and nothing seems to work. i would say revitalizing our relationships in asia and the pacific. that's where history the going to be written in the 21st surgeriry. i would say involved there. better relations with ind ka ya with the countries of southeast asia. doing something about our energy situation that we're less vulnerable on vagaries of price and supply that would go a long way. again, i'd focus more at home on competitiveness, on improving our immigration policy. on the quality of our schools. on the quality of our transportation infrastructure and so forth. again, we have got to retore the foundations of american power. that's a prerequisite if we're going to lead in the world either by what we do or our example. >> restoration is the theme. i hope it's the subject of the next book. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, andrea. >> it's very provocative richard. >>> a word of warning the images you'
pakistan? where would you focus your attention? >> pakistan's an important challenge. there's not much we can do about it. we've tried all sorts of things there and nothing seems to work. i would say revitalizing our relationships in asia and the pacific. that's where history the going to be written in the 21st surgeriry. i would say involved there. better relations with ind ka ya with the countries of southeast asia. doing something about our energy situation that we're less vulnerable...
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the attacks came just months after india resumed peace talks with pakistan. so far no group has taken responsibility for the bombings, and indian officials are not speculating on who may have been behind the blast. secretary of state hillary clinton says she will proceed with plans to visit the country next week. now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america today. >>> video from a dash cam has three tennessee sheriff's deputies in hot water. the officers took down an allegedly intoxicated man then repeatedly punched, kicked, and tazed him. while the man was handcuffed and half naked, the officers claim he was resisting arrest. the incident is now under investigation, and all three officers have been placed on administrative leave. >>> an attorney in louisiana is forced to answer some tough questions after surveillance video showed him fighting in a bar located in the town he represents. the attorney said he was defending himself, and he sued the bar for lack of security. the owners countersued, saying the attorney's bar tab was
the attacks came just months after india resumed peace talks with pakistan. so far no group has taken responsibility for the bombings, and indian officials are not speculating on who may have been behind the blast. secretary of state hillary clinton says she will proceed with plans to visit the country next week. now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america today. >>> video from a dash cam has three tennessee sheriff's deputies in hot water. the officers...
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this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's always pakistan is a basket case, a nuclear basket case. stay in afghanistan. >> you don't. you don't. >> it's not going to work. that is washington's argument, mike barnicle. pakistan is stabilized. we have to keep having american troops killed in afghanistan. it doesn't add up. invading cambodia is the right move when you are going into vietnam. >> continuing argument and keep making it because less than 1% of american families and american people are serving in the military in afghanistan. >> there you go. >> back to the draft. >> untouched. >> we need a draft. >> we'll
this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's...
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navy zeals when they invatd bin laden's compound in pakistan show the strains inside bin laden's terror network. he was spending as much time dealing with al qaeda's struggles as he was dealing with no terror attacks. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what's this information telling us? >> a great deal about the organization which was now fragmented, difficult to control and finance. apparently riddled with trade traitors. it demonstrates that osama bin laden was obsessed with the follow up attack on the united states after 9/11. despite the fact that lots oof people in the organization wanted to work harder to establish a -- across the muslim war. he was focused on the united states and a big follow up, a big splashy attack which never occurred. >> all this from this new report in "the washington post" telling us al qaeda groups were complaining about the drone attacks which shows that they were working. >> they were indeed. matter of fact a large number of complaints about drone attacks. he himself in several emails talked about his concern that his ranks were being thinned. the
navy zeals when they invatd bin laden's compound in pakistan show the strains inside bin laden's terror network. he was spending as much time dealing with al qaeda's struggles as he was dealing with no terror attacks. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what's this information telling us? >> a great deal about the organization which was now fragmented, difficult to control and finance. apparently riddled with trade traitors. it demonstrates that osama bin laden was...
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is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. reza how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard a lot of rhetoric from both sides, finger pointing, accusations. this is more than rhetoric. i think things changed after the raid on the bin laden compound here in pakistan in may. this was viewed by many here in pakistan as an embarrassment for the country and the military. it was viewed as a violation of pakistan's sovereignty by people here. ever since then, both sides have made moves that have substantially changed the complexion of this relationship. $800 million in cash and military equipment. the message here is we are not happy with the effort you are making. if you want to cont
is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. reza how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard a lot of rhetoric from both...
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the pact allows the group to use it as a transit point for moving money and fighters to the bases in pakistan and afghanistan. let's get to part of what the "wall street journal" said. the quote reads they outlined what they said was a fund-raising operation that uses iran-based operatives and draws from donors in persian gulf companies. the treasury said they sanctioned six for allegedly overseeing this network. >> how concerned are you when you hear this report and what does this mean? >> it's difficult to understand at first. you look at what happens and you see militias confronting al qaeda and a lot of people die. it's difficult to imagine the allies. what's amazing is there has been evidence and through other sources that does tend to confirm the fact that iran is a major location from money laundering and cross transit into afghanistan. it is operating as a portal for the taliban and al qaeda. why is iran doing this? probably not for idea logical reasons. they wanted to reach a deal and ever since then they have been holding this issue. there have been high ranking members that are all
the pact allows the group to use it as a transit point for moving money and fighters to the bases in pakistan and afghanistan. let's get to part of what the "wall street journal" said. the quote reads they outlined what they said was a fund-raising operation that uses iran-based operatives and draws from donors in persian gulf companies. the treasury said they sanctioned six for allegedly overseeing this network. >> how concerned are you when you hear this report and what does...
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pakistan and israel have willing weighed in to the debate, with concerns about terrorism and israel has concerns about iran. if the u.s. is weak, they're saying, it only means they're going to be much stronger. here in the uk, though, they're basically saying that these political wranglings are posing a threat to the world's financial system. >> so it looks like something that europe is very concerned about, as well as china there. thank you so much. >>> let's get more on the debt ceiling drama from steve womack, a member of the house financial services committee. congressman, something we were just talking about, something you're very familiar with. what have you heard in terms of how countries are reacting with the possibility of the debt ceiling not being raised and the downgrading of the united states credit rating? >> let me make a very quick correction to what you said. i don't serve on the financial services committee, i serve on the house appropriations committee, on which i sit on the financial services subcommittee. so it is one of my three subcommittee assignments. but like a
pakistan and israel have willing weighed in to the debate, with concerns about terrorism and israel has concerns about iran. if the u.s. is weak, they're saying, it only means they're going to be much stronger. here in the uk, though, they're basically saying that these political wranglings are posing a threat to the world's financial system. >> so it looks like something that europe is very concerned about, as well as china there. thank you so much. >>> let's get more on the...
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pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures where you can turn the aid back on. >> so how do they get there, fran? is this simply a slap on the wrist or is it a real threat by the obama administration, that, look, they are fed up with pakistan and they are not going to deal with them in the same way? >> no, it's much more than a mere slap on the wrist? i don't think the administration wanted to find themselves having to get to the point. there's tremendous public pressure and congress for them to use this, and the problem is it's one of national pride. what you are seeing is pak
pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures...
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and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the figures what difference does it make whether it's 54 or 94 or 150. you met with the governor of texas, rick perry. what was that about? >> nothing. he wanted to meet. maybe exchange views on what it would be. >> did you get the impression he is thinking of running for president? >> well, i think i did, yes. >> you think he will? >> you need to ask him, but i did get that impression. >> i agree and i think he will run, but i haven't met with him. you came away from the meeting thinking he is going to run? >> yes. >> let's talk about you a little bit. how do you feel? >> i hope i am
and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the...
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in addition, pakistan is a conduit to get weapons in to fight the taliban. it is a thorny issue in the one that we have to work out. to cut up pakistan immediately would be a mistake. host: greg, independent line. caller: as long as the budget is an issue, eliminate the patriots back, homeland security, the police. fire those people. fire them right now. get the money from there. no one was concerned about the budget when bush was fighting a war on two fronts. i was in the national guard and the marines. i did not go the last three times because my son came back. the national guard, it is a good thing i did not go, because all 11 people -- 20 people -- 26 people were killed and injured in that unit. so, eliminate those guys. host: i think we get your point. the guest: i am very sorry. i can tell that you are emotional about this. i am sorry about your friends and bodies that were killed. that is a problem that we hope will come to a conclusion very quickly. the threat to the world and the united states is still very real. everyone has an opinion on where we
in addition, pakistan is a conduit to get weapons in to fight the taliban. it is a thorny issue in the one that we have to work out. to cut up pakistan immediately would be a mistake. host: greg, independent line. caller: as long as the budget is an issue, eliminate the patriots back, homeland security, the police. fire those people. fire them right now. get the money from there. no one was concerned about the budget when bush was fighting a war on two fronts. i was in the national guard and...
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including 10 to 20 names of key leaders of al qaeda, whether they be in yemen, somalia, pakistan or north and central africa. but on this trip in afghanistan panetta is expected to meet with his counterpart, the defense ministry in afghanistan, and he is also expected to have a press conference with the afghan president, hamid karzai. aside from that, the most important part of the visit is talking to the u.s. commanders on the ground here in afghanistan, talking to the u.s. servicemen and women as well who are fighting the fight within the country. right now the strategic time within the war and afghanistan, the president announced the withdrawal plan by the end of this year. 10,000 americans are supposed to leave the country by the end of next year. he's hoping another $23,000 by next year. right now the time for secretary panetta to talk to the commanders here, to the afghan government here, to see how to transition the authority they have in afghanistan back to the afghan people. >> do you think the key to targeting al qaeda is all the information taken from osama bin ladin's compound
including 10 to 20 names of key leaders of al qaeda, whether they be in yemen, somalia, pakistan or north and central africa. but on this trip in afghanistan panetta is expected to meet with his counterpart, the defense ministry in afghanistan, and he is also expected to have a press conference with the afghan president, hamid karzai. aside from that, the most important part of the visit is talking to the u.s. commanders on the ground here in afghanistan, talking to the u.s. servicemen and...